I’m not about to start splitting hairs about which definition to use for the West. Although it largely depends on how the West is defined, most often than not we’re included in the Western civilization by cultural and political overlap, and also by proximity.
And even if you don’t consider us part of the West, I will speak out on behalf of the rest of Latin American continent that, save for whatever the hell is happening with Bukele kissing fash ass, they’ve largely kept out of things and they are unquestionably part of the Western bloc proper.
Lumping people together like this is just gross. It’s much like when people call all Asians Chinese because they can’t bother with the differences and it just sounds inappropriate.
Okay here’s one way to see if you’re from the West: Is your media manufacturing consent for a war with Iran? Does your country consider Israel an indispensable ally? Are you ramping up or being asked to ramp up defense spending to respond to the Russian threat? Did you send troops to Afghanistan? Did your country impose non-UN sanctions on Iran? Does the Middle East form an important part of your country’s foreign policy?
If the answer to all or most of these is no, you are not part of the West, or at least not in a way that is relevant to this conversation.
Lumping people together like this is just gross.
Then they can stop following daddy USA’s party line and do something, anything to differentiate themselves from America’s little gang of imperialists.
Those are questions to determine if you’re at war with Iran.
No, they’re questions to determine how involved you are in Western foreign policy.
We have done quite a few, actually. That’s my entire point.
Again, I’m not talking about Latin America here. It’s a matter of debate whether Latin America is part of the West, and since I’m usually more interested in the politics than the culture I subscribe to the definition that says it doesn’t, as do most people who criticize the West in general. I mean compare Mexico with Canada in terms of foreign policy and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
No, they’re questions to determine how involved you are in Western foreign policy.
With Iran. We’re not operating here in isolation.
But sure, if you’re interested in speaking politics, then please qualify with Western bloc. Because, for all intents and purposes, we’re part of the modern West, whether we want to be or not.
Here’s Wikipedia on the topic. Note that Latin America is light blue, not blue. Also Western Bloc is a cold-war term that’s not used today for the most part.
Literally the first thing I checked after your first message, and I did check with other sources as well. We’re in the West whether we want to or not.
E: And I also want to add that your “what has your country done recently” is puzzling because we’re seeing some good changes happening for the better, and after so long. We’re the only Western country that I know to have held a democratic vote on its entire judicial branch as a direct measure by our madam president for fighting entrenched corruption and nepotism. The result has been surprisingly positive, and I consider it a good move regardless of the ideological differences that I have with the new Courts. I may not get my legal weed plants anytime soon, but I’m all in for transparency and better governance. We seem to be flying under the radar, even though we’ve been upholding the values of the Western world to make every bleeding heart Midwestern liberal proud (and yet somehow, we’re still not quite ever good enough for Canada, ffs 😂).
I’m not about to start splitting hairs about which definition to use for the West. Although it largely depends on how the West is defined, most often than not we’re included in the Western civilization by cultural and political overlap, and also by proximity.
And even if you don’t consider us part of the West, I will speak out on behalf of the rest of Latin American continent that, save for whatever the hell is happening with Bukele kissing fash ass, they’ve largely kept out of things and they are unquestionably part of the Western bloc proper.
Lumping people together like this is just gross. It’s much like when people call all Asians Chinese because they can’t bother with the differences and it just sounds inappropriate.
Okay here’s one way to see if you’re from the West: Is your media manufacturing consent for a war with Iran? Does your country consider Israel an indispensable ally? Are you ramping up or being asked to ramp up defense spending to respond to the Russian threat? Did you send troops to Afghanistan? Did your country impose non-UN sanctions on Iran? Does the Middle East form an important part of your country’s foreign policy?
If the answer to all or most of these is no, you are not part of the West, or at least not in a way that is relevant to this conversation.
Then they can stop following daddy USA’s party line and do something, anything to differentiate themselves from America’s little gang of imperialists.
Those are questions to determine if you’re at war with Iran.
We have done quite a few, actually. That’s my entire point.
No, they’re questions to determine how involved you are in Western foreign policy.
Again, I’m not talking about Latin America here. It’s a matter of debate whether Latin America is part of the West, and since I’m usually more interested in the politics than the culture I subscribe to the definition that says it doesn’t, as do most people who criticize the West in general. I mean compare Mexico with Canada in terms of foreign policy and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
With Iran. We’re not operating here in isolation.
But sure, if you’re interested in speaking politics, then please qualify with Western bloc. Because, for all intents and purposes, we’re part of the modern West, whether we want to be or not.
Here’s Wikipedia on the topic. Note that Latin America is light blue, not blue. Also Western Bloc is a cold-war term that’s not used today for the most part.
Literally the first thing I checked after your first message, and I did check with other sources as well. We’re in the West whether we want to or not.
E: And I also want to add that your “what has your country done recently” is puzzling because we’re seeing some good changes happening for the better, and after so long. We’re the only Western country that I know to have held a democratic vote on its entire judicial branch as a direct measure by our madam president for fighting entrenched corruption and nepotism. The result has been surprisingly positive, and I consider it a good move regardless of the ideological differences that I have with the new Courts. I may not get my legal weed plants anytime soon, but I’m all in for transparency and better governance. We seem to be flying under the radar, even though we’ve been upholding the values of the Western world to make every bleeding heart Midwestern liberal proud (and yet somehow, we’re still not quite ever good enough for Canada, ffs 😂).