Biden just followed through with what was negotiated with the Taliban by the former Trump administration. If the US doesn’t follow through we lose credibility in all future negotiations with everyone.
What you’re complaining about is the fact that Trump et all made an agreement to pull out the troops within a certain (completely unreasonable) timeline. They had no idea WTF they were doing and obviously didn’t do due diligence or any sort of logistics planning for such a withdrawal before making the agreement.
If you think that sounds like bullshit let me ask you this: Does Trump ever do due diligence on anything? During his first administration nearly all his executive orders got thrown out because they were deemed arbitrary and capricious and during his second administration it looks like we’re getting the same exact situation.
They don’t know what they’re doing. They don’t know how to govern. If they didn’t have several powerful right wing media empires backing up every stupid decision they make Trump would never have been re-elected and he’d have long since been impeached in this administration.
Biden just followed through with what was negotiated with the Taliban by the former Trump administration. If the US doesn’t follow through we lose credibility in all future negotiations with everyone.
I am skeptical of the claim that we had any credibility to lose in respect to our dealings in Afghanistan. Plus, our negotiations weren’t with the Taliban, they weren’t in control of the country until we extracted. Our dealings were with the former Afghan government who weren’t in favour of the expedited process.
What you’re complaining about is the fact that Trump et all made an agreement to pull out the troops within a certain (completely unreasonable) timeline. They had no idea WTF they were doing and obviously didn’t do due diligence or any sort of logistics planning for such a withdrawal before making the agreement.
And knowing that the Biden administration still rammed through the pull out. It’s not like delaying the pull out of Afghanistan didn’t already have a precedent.
What do you think makes us look worse on the global stage…? A slight and understandable delay in moving our troops out, or completely abandoning our partners to a regime that everyone knew was going to hunt them and their families down in retribution?
You are pretending as if geopolitics is completely devoid of nuance.
you think that sounds like bullshit let me ask you this: Does Trump ever do due diligence on anything? During his first administration nearly all his executive orders got thrown out because they were deemed arbitrary and capricious and during his second administration it looks like we’re getting the same exact situation.
Again, I fail to see how that makes the Biden administration seem competent if they chose to proceed with something they knew was going to be a shit show.
My point was that it was a shit show, and that both administrations are in some way responsible for it.
You lost credibility with all your allies, who came for help when you called NATO, article 5, lost hundree s of soldiers during a couple of decade, and then were left alone in the chaos with no warning.
Biden just followed through with what was negotiated with the Taliban by the former Trump administration. If the US doesn’t follow through we lose credibility in all future negotiations with everyone.
What you’re complaining about is the fact that Trump et all made an agreement to pull out the troops within a certain (completely unreasonable) timeline. They had no idea WTF they were doing and obviously didn’t do due diligence or any sort of logistics planning for such a withdrawal before making the agreement.
If you think that sounds like bullshit let me ask you this: Does Trump ever do due diligence on anything? During his first administration nearly all his executive orders got thrown out because they were deemed arbitrary and capricious and during his second administration it looks like we’re getting the same exact situation.
They don’t know what they’re doing. They don’t know how to govern. If they didn’t have several powerful right wing media empires backing up every stupid decision they make Trump would never have been re-elected and he’d have long since been impeached in this administration.
I am skeptical of the claim that we had any credibility to lose in respect to our dealings in Afghanistan. Plus, our negotiations weren’t with the Taliban, they weren’t in control of the country until we extracted. Our dealings were with the former Afghan government who weren’t in favour of the expedited process.
And knowing that the Biden administration still rammed through the pull out. It’s not like delaying the pull out of Afghanistan didn’t already have a precedent.
What do you think makes us look worse on the global stage…? A slight and understandable delay in moving our troops out, or completely abandoning our partners to a regime that everyone knew was going to hunt them and their families down in retribution?
You are pretending as if geopolitics is completely devoid of nuance.
Again, I fail to see how that makes the Biden administration seem competent if they chose to proceed with something they knew was going to be a shit show.
My point was that it was a shit show, and that both administrations are in some way responsible for it.
You lost credibility with all your allies, who came for help when you called NATO, article 5, lost hundree s of soldiers during a couple of decade, and then were left alone in the chaos with no warning.